Joe Rogan

Stephen Miller told Rogan, briefly, at the UFC event at the White House that 'the UFO thing is going to come out'.

I met him very briefly at the UFC event at the White House and he told me that it's going to come out.

Ground-penetrating radar and radio tomography show a flooded labyrinth under Hawara, Egypt, with a 40 m long metallic object of apparently unknown metal in a large chamber.

It's a 40 m long metallic object and the metal apparently is of unknown origin.

Our check The claim traces to private-survey and satellite-radar assertions, not to excavation: Merlin Burrows (Timothy Akers) describes a gallery of at least 40 by 100 m and a metallic object of about 40 m, Filippo Biondi and Corrado Malanga have published SAR-tomography claims about Giza, and Mark Carlotto's 2023 Sentinel-1 work only shows shallow structures. Archaeologists such as Flint Dibble call the metallic-object claim unsupported, Zahi Hawass rejected the related Khafre claims as having no scientific basis, and radar specialists doubt the claimed depths. Egypt's ministry announced new work at Hawara on 7 May 2026, but I found no published result confirming a flooded labyrinth or any metal object.

Sources focus.it, wealthness42.substack.com, cairoscene.com

The elongated skulls found in Peru lack the sagittal line and have 20 to 30 percent more brain capacity, so they are not simply the product of head-binding.

their brain capacity is far larger than us. 20 to 30% larger.

Our check Artificial cranial deformation by binding is well documented for Paracas and other Andean peoples (Julio Tello's 1928 excavation of over 300 elongated skulls; two shapes, tabular erect and bilobate, depicted on Paracas ceramics), and it changes skull shape without adding volume. The claims of 20 to 30 percent more capacity, no sagittal suture and non-human DNA come from tour-industry and Ancient Aliens figures (Brien Foerster, L. A. Marzulli) and Facebook announcements, with an unnamed geneticist and no peer-reviewed measurement; a 2016 test reported European and Middle Eastern ancestry. I did not find a study that directly measures the volume figure, so this rests on the standard bioarchaeology plus the absence of any supporting study.

Sources en.wikipedia.org, en.wikipedia.org, doi.org, snopes.com

Rogan says Hal Puthoff told him that remote viewing was used to find the location of a downed Russian craft to within a couple of kilometres, in remote wilderness Russia had not located.

they used it to to very specifically find the location of a downed Russian craft within like a couple kilometers

Rogan says the first break in the wall of silence was the 2017 New York Times report describing, in sensible language, that these things might be from another world.

I think the first break in the wall was that 2017 New York Times report

Rogan says The Age of Disclosure has hardly any UFO footage, only testimony, and that he found it very good; Luna says she has not seen it.

maybe like a little bit, but it's just testimony. It's just testimony.

Rogan summarises the film's argument: if secret programmes have been funded for decades, money has been misappropriated and Congress lied to, which is illegal, so the only logical resolution is mass amnesty.

What they're essentially saying is one of the problems is if they have been funding these secret programs, then for all these years they've been misappropriating money.

Rogan says the documentary calls for mass amnesty for those who misappropriated money, and for whistleblowers, and that he thinks it is the only logical way forward; he adds that the real crime is keeping this secret from humanity.

one of the things that this documentary was calling for that I think is the only logical way to solve this is a mass amnesty for these people

Rogan says, in the context of misappropriated money, that the Pentagon has not been able to pass its audit.

the Pentagon hasn't been able to pass the audit

Rogan says the Roswell wreckage was flown to Wright Field and that President Truman supposedly met it there, after the newspaper story forced a retraction and a weather-balloon press conference.

They flew the the wreckage and Truman met them there supposedly.

Rogan says the big mistake in the 1947 Roswell episode was that the newspaper printed it, after which the military had to backtrack with a press conference showing scattered weather-balloon pieces.

The big mistake with the Roswell one was the newspaper printed it.

Rogan says that if what claimants allege is true, a recovered craft traverses space and time instantly, uses an unknown element that defies gravity, and has no interior controls, everything being done with the mind of the pilot.

It it's utilizing no interior mechanisms of control. Everything is done with the mind of the pilot.

Rogan relays from The Age of Disclosure that Hal Puthoff, during the Bush administration, was one of many scientists assigned to put numbers on the pros and cons of disclosure, told a crashed UFO was being reverse-engineered, and that every scientist concluded the cons outweighed the pros.

He was one of many scientists that was assigned to put a numerical value to pros and cons of UFO disclosure.

Rogan says, apparently voicing Puthoff's reasoning, that disclosure would wreck confidence in government if something can go a hundred million times faster than thought possible, appear out of nowhere, stop nuclear programmes and shut down bases.

something that can go hundred million times faster than we think is physically possible through the universe, appear out of nowhere, stop all of our nuclear programs, shut down bases

Rogan reports a very vivid dream, told on air a few weeks earlier, in which tall, slender, humanlike beings talked to him, first scared him and then signalled they were only playing, and told him to relax; he woke around 3 a.m. and could not go back to sleep, which he says has never happened to him after a dream.

very slender, tall humanlike things that were talking to me

Rogan says the dream setting was a strangely lit corridor with water and a reptilian element, in which the beings monitored and fed creatures held back by flimsy barriers; he reads it, tentatively, as a message that humanity's protection is more precarious than we think, and adds that this part was more dreamlike than the conversation itself.

they had barriers that were very sloppy that were keeping these things out

Rogan describes the dream beings as tall and slim, with larger eyes and a larger head than normal humans and a very small jaw, smiling, 'genderless', wearing a suit the same colour as their skin, and not like the grey in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

larger eyes than a normal human and a larger head

Rogan says he does not think he was abducted or even contacted, that the dream may simply have been vivid because he is steeped in the UAP subject, and (at the end, t=10980) that it was 'most likely just a dream' because nothing physical happened in his room.

I don't think I got abducted

Rogan guesses the dream beings may be future humans, on the reasoning that hominid heads have grown and bodies slimmed as physical need declines, and he later says his dream suggested humans will 'become another thing'.

they seemed like what we will be

Rogan says he has never seen a UAP; as a child he thought he might have, but it was probably a fighter jet. His interest was rebuilt by Project Blue Book, J. Allen Hynek, Philip Corso and Roswell reading, and then the Jeremy Corbell Bob Lazar documentary.

unfortunately I never saw anything

Rogan says that since Bob Lazar's 1989 account (his interview episode is, Rogan thinks, around 63 million YouTube views) more has come out that substantiates it, including his Los Alamos employment, the gravity-manipulating craft design and the propulsion, and 'what we're hearing over and over again' from whistleblowers and Hal Puthoff.

more and more has come out that substantiates what he said

Rogan says Area 51 was not officially acknowledged until the Obama administration, which he says wanted to widen the exclusion zone because too many people were filming craft on non-secure land.

wasn't even confirmed until the Obama administration

Rogan says a friend is making a documentary with Lazar called Project Gravitar and predicts it will corroborate Lazar, including that the S4 site at Area 51 is real; he says satellite images of S4's hangars exist.

I think we're going to find out that S4 is very real

Rogan (or Michels; the speaker turn is unclear) says Marco Rubio's concern is that China will develop recovered-craft technology first, and that the US can only catch up by removing the ridicule that has kept the subject closed.

I think what Rubio is concerned with is that China develops this technology first

Rogan argues the UAP subject has long been stigmatised, using Whitley Strieber as the example of an author dismissed as a kook for writing about abduction, and says senior officials such as Rubio speaking openly is 'slowly but surely' removing the ridicule.

everybody like sort of dismisses him as a kook in the real literature world

Rogan says that Marco Rubio, speaking about the subject, has described vehicles the size of a football field moving through the ocean at 500 knots whose destination is unknown.

vehicles the size of a football field that are moving through the ocean at 500 knots

Rogan argues disclosure will require an amnesty, because after decades without oversight there was, he assumes, lying to Congress, misappropriated money and defence-contractor advantage, and gatekeepers will keep gatekeeping while they fear jail.

they're going to need some sort of an amnesty

Rogan argues the AI race is connected to the supposed recovered-craft programs because artificial general superintelligence, once it can improve itself, may work out how to reverse engineer craft and invent new power sources, making AI 'the legitimate gateway to the cosmos'.

I feel like that is the legitimate gateway to the cosmos

Rogan says Google's quantum chip solved in minutes an equation that the world's supercomputers would need about 2.6 billion years for, and (quoting Marc Andreessen) that it is so hard that converting every atom in the universe to a computer would not finish before heat death; he adds that Google people said the multiverse must exist to explain it.

I think it was 2.6 six billion years to solve and it's solved it in a matter of minutes

Rogan says he believes all lives are tied together toward one goal, the advancement of the human species, that this has 'the echoes of religious texts', and that the simultaneity of UAP disclosure with deepfakes is 'all on purpose', part of the experience.

I think we are all purposely building towards something

Rogan reads the Book of Enoch story of the Watchers who came down, bred with humans and created the Nephilim as an ancient description of genetic engineering by advanced beings, recalled badly by pre-literate people.

doesn't that sound like genetic engineering

Rogan says he does not believe the simple evolutionary timeline from ancient hominids to humans because it happened 'too quick', citing the doubling of cranial size over a couple of million years, and concludes humans were genetically engineered.

I think we're genetically engineered

Rogan says the reason aliens have not made open contact is that they are waiting for AI, because he does not think humans will become less violent; Michels adds that they show up at nuclear sites 'at all of our nuclear sites' but are waiting for humans to evolve.

I think they're waiting for AI

Rogan answers that he would not call psilocybin and DMT alien technology, but that they have a function in human life like vitamin C or electrolytes, that the prohibition rests on a philosophy opposed to the unity and ego death they induce, and that the people he considers kindest have all taken them.

I wouldn't say it's like alien technology

Rogan says Elon Musk, who holds a top-secret clearance because he works with NASA, must know what the UFO secrets are and cannot say so while his rocket business depends on government work; he calls Musk 'a sly dog'.

you can't defy the government if you want enormous grants

Rogan says the scans Michels showed of three-fingered ('tridactyl') mummies from Peru, with ligaments, bones and tendons visible, convince him they are real beings and that the specimens can be studied genetically.

you see the ligaments and the bones and the tendon structure

Rogan says the tridactyl mummies, with the slender, large-headed, large-eyed form people keep reporting, may be evidence of another species sharing the planet, perhaps a breakaway population living in the ocean.

we might have actual evidence that there's another species that shares this planet with us

Rogan answers the question of who runs the government by saying it is money and the corporations that fund the machine, and that UAP disclosure faces the same blockage as the Epstein files.

It's the amount of money they would lose if truth is exposed in a bunch of different areas

Rogan says the House vote to release the Epstein files was 'about 470 to 1', with one dissenter.

The fact that it was 471 or 470 and one dude

Rogan says he sees scripture, including Adam and Eve and the serpent, as an ancient relaying of real history, probably of genetic manipulation of the first humans; he says he now attends a church, finds its members the nicest people, and that nobody, including whoever told his daughter how Revelation will play out, can know how the world ends.

I assume that that is a recounting of a genetic manipulation

Rogan says children inherit inclinations and abilities that were never taught (his children's early aptitude for martial arts), and suggests humans may carry information from a lost technological age, so inventions are 'rediscovered' because they are inside us.

stuff your kids are getting from you that you didn't even teach them

Rogan predicts contact or disclosure will happen within their lifetimes, slowly but radically, alongside other upheavals; once AI becomes a deceptive, thinking life form, 'there's already an alien amongst us', which will open the door to contact with tridactyl ocean dwellers or beings from another dimension or galaxy.

it probably will happen within our lifetime and it'll probably happen slowly but radically

Rogan says contact and AI together will be 'the end of us as we know it' because humans will become another kind of being, which is what he thinks the dream was showing him.

I think we're going to become whatever those things are

Rogan says the felt meaning of the dream was that beings were deliberately easing him into contact, which is why they scared him and then played; he says nothing similar has happened since, though each night he wonders if it will.

the feeling I got was a feeling of someone was trying to get me used to this