Disclosed

Gimbal video (USS Theodore Roosevelt)

Date
Jan 2015
Place
Atlantic Ocean off the US East Coast (reported off Jacksonville, Florida)
Record
Curated case
Assessment
Contested
Evidence strength
467 case pages by decade; this one falls in 2010s with 32 othersAll cases

What was reported

An F/A-18 crew from the Theodore Roosevelt strike group recorded an infrared video of a glowing object that appears to rotate while the crew remark on a 'fleet' of objects on their situational display; the Navy authenticated it and released it in 2020 as unidentified. Lt Ryan Graves testified that his squadron saw such objects routinely in 2014-2015, correlated across radar and infrared, including one passing within about 100 feet of an aircraft. Mick West argues the rotation is the camera's de-rotation acting on a distant jet's glare, citing rotation in discrete steps, though he has offered more than one mechanism; the fleet on radar is not in the released footage and is relayed by the crew. Wind and sun-angle reconstructions are also consistent with a balloon.

What officials concluded

Unresolved

DoD (2020): unidentified

Strongest ordinary reading

Glare from a distant aircraft rotated by the camera gimbal, or a balloon; contested

Evidence profile

Sensors3 of 9
  • No: Visual
  • Yes: Infrared
  • Yes: Radar
  • Yes: Video
  • No: Photo
  • No: Film
  • No: Audio
  • No: Night vision
  • No: Other sensor
Witnessescount not stated
  • No: Civilian
  • Yes: Military aircrew
  • No: Military ground
  • No: Airline crew
  • No: Sensor operator
  • No: Law enforcement
  • No: Scientist
  • No: Astronaut
  • No: Intelligence official
  • No: Other
ShapeOther shape
  • No: Light only
  • No: Orb or sphere
  • No: Disc
  • No: Triangle
  • No: Cylinder
  • No: Cube
  • Yes: Other shape
Effectsnone reported
  • No: Physiological
  • No: Physical trace
  • No: Electromagnetic
  • No: Sound
  • No: Silent

Videos that discuss it

4

Claims and verdicts

6
  • Unverified1:45:57Mick WestSingle sensor

    Gimbal's apparent rotation is best explained by an optical artifact tied to the camera's internal de-rotation mechanism, evidenced by background light/dark bands rotating with the object, diffraction-spike-like artifacts, occasional mismatch between the object's and horizon's rotation rate, and the rotation's amount/timing matching exactly what the camera needs to de-rotate while tracking a forward target.

    The amount that it rotates and the speed and the time is all exactly the same amount that would be required for the camera to have to rotate to traverse the forward-looking direction.

    Said in UFO Skeptic Mick West Challenged To A Debate

  • Unverified2:01:14Mick WestSingle sensor

    Gimbal's apparent rotation happens in discrete steps rather than smoothly, which West treats as his strongest ('smoking gun') evidence for a camera/tracking artifact rather than a physically tumbling craft.

    The smoking gun for me was that it rotates in steps.

    Said in UFO Skeptic Mick West Challenged To A Debate

  • Unverified19:22Mick WestSingle sensor

    The Gimbal video is ambiguous between two hypotheses: a distant plane roughly 30-35 miles away producing an internal-reflection glare that appears to rotate with the camera, or a closer object moving in an unphysical J-shaped path.

    about 30, 35 miles away there could be a plane moving away and to the left and that would create essentially the same visuals... the rotation comes from the camera rotating.

    Said in UAP Evidence & Analysis | Mick West

  • Unverified20:23Mick WestSecondhand

    The eyewitness account supporting the 'closer object' reading of Gimbal is secondhand: Ryan Graves is relaying what a pilot told him he remembered, more than a decade after the event.

    we have Ryan Graves like giving an account that someone told him of what they remember happening... over 10 years ago now.

    Said in UAP Evidence & Analysis | Mick West

  • Unverified2:01:13Ryan GravesSecondhand/single sensor

    The released 'Gimbal' video shows a single rotating object on FLIR, while the pilots' verbal chatter refers to a broader 'fleet' of objects not visible on that sensor; Graves says he saw this discrepancy reflected in radar situational-awareness display data during a debrief of the aircrew involved.

    the recording on the at FLIR system shows a single object that rotates ... you hear the pilots refer to a fleet of objects that is not visible on the FLIR system

    Said in Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Hearing

  • Unverified43:36Ryan GravesMulti sensor

    Beginning in 2014-2015, after radar/IR upgrades, VFA-11 ('Red Rippers') F/A-18 crews off Virginia Beach routinely detected unknown objects, correlated across radar, infrared, and eventually visual identification, described as dark-gray or black cubes inside a clear sphere roughly 5-15 feet in diameter; one such object passed within about 50 feet of an aircraft during a 2014 training mission.

    the object described as a dark gray or a black Cube inside of a clear sphere came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be 5 to 15 feet in diameter

    Said in Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Hearing

Outside sources

On the map

30.30° N, 80.20° W, a position at sea, approximate

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