UFO whistleblower David Grusch: 'We are not alone' | Official Ross Coulthart NewsNation interview

NewsNation confirmed Grusch's military credentials and resume, but has not seen or independently verified the underlying proof he says he provided to investigators.

news Nation has confirmed David Grush's credentials and resume we have not seen or verified the alleged proof he says he's provided to investigators

The US government possesses multiple non-human, exotic-origin spacecraft, some landed and some crashed, under a program the official UAP Task Force was denied access to.

we have spacecraft from another species we do yeah how many quite a number some are landed some are crashed

NHI craft may not be traveling from another star system but from an extra spatial dimension co-located with ours, drawing on physics concepts of higher-dimensional space.

there most likely are physical additional spatial dimensions and you could imagine uh in four and 5D space where what we experience as linear time ends up being a physical dimension

Grusch has never personally witnessed NHI or a craft; his conviction rests on a roughly four-year process of interviewing informants who did not know each other.

i started out as a non-believer i came to the the problem as a hardcore physics guy intel officer... i was very methodical interviewing people who didn't know each other

The available data 'empirically' points to humanity not being alone.

absolutely the data points empirically that we're not alone

Some recovered craft contained dead non-human pilots.

when you recover something that's either landed or crashed um sometimes you encounter um dead pilots and believe it or not as fantastical as that sounds it's true

Recovered craft materials show engineered isotopic ratios and unusual heavy-element arrangements consistent with non-human manufacture.

isotopic ratios that would have to be engineered for it to be um at those levels but also just extremely uh uh strange heavy atomic metal you know high up in the periodic table

The first known crash recovery took place in 1933 in Magenta, Italy under the Mussolini regime; the craft was moved to a secure Italian air base until 1944-45, and the Vatican (Pope Pius XII) had knowledge of it before the US acquired it.

1933 was the first recovery in Europe in uh Magenta Italy they recovered a a partially intact vehicle... Pope Pius the 12th back channelneled that so the Vatican was involved

Our check Grusch did make almost exactly this claim in his NewsNation interview: a 1933 Magenta, Italy crash recovered under Mussolini, held at a secure Italian air base until 1944-45, with the Vatican (Pius XII) allegedly informing the US before it acquired the craft. The record confirms he said this. But the underlying fact is not established: no independently verified Italian government or Vatican record has surfaced, and AARO's Historical Record Report Volume 1 (see yUJucfWAGGU-c01) specifically reviewed decades of alleged crash-retrieval claims, including pre-Roswell stories, and found no empirical evidence for any of them.

Sources newsweek.com, metabunk.org

The US Air Force's 1994 Roswell report is a fabricated cover story that conflated the 1947 event with later, unrelated Mogul-balloon and crash-test-dummy programs, and wrongly dismissed civilian eyewitnesses as mistaken.

that analysis they did was a total hack job... they're conflating multiple um situations with crash test dummies and and mogul balloons

In 1967 at Malmstrom Air Force Base, a UAP hovered over a nuclear-missile silo and ten Minuteman ICBMs shut down; multiple Air Force veterans have since gone public about this.

one incident in 1967... involved UAPs tampering with the nuclear missiles at Malmstrom Air Base in Montana... hovered over a nuclear weapons silo and shut down 10 nuclear ICBM missiles

People who worked directly with recovered technology have suffered physical harm from nuclear, radiological, or biological risk associated with it.

a lot of them you know were um injured looking at some of this stuff... a lot of them have literally suffered physically because of their service

A 2015 East Coast Navy video was reviewed by optical engineers who, based on pixel saturation and apparent size, concluded the object is not a jet, though it might be an unusual natural phenomenon.

based on the pixel saturation and apparent size it's certainly something that's not a jet it might be some kind of natural phenomenon that's quite strange but it's not as simple as a jet

The 2004 Nimitz 'Tic Tac' object was a genuinely anomalous, physical craft not built by any known human program.

the Tic Tac truly anomalous absolutely uh technical vehicle physical and that's absolutely uh something that we didn't make not of this world most likely

The three UAP videos officially declassified by the Pentagon in 2020 are a small, misleading fraction of far more numerous and more concerning videos that exist and could legally be released.

there are many videos that are totally fair to release through um a declassification process and I find it um very concerning... there are more concerning videos that left me with a lot of questions

Credible witnesses exist who could testify to Congress about very large craft, some the size of a football field.

he says there are credible witnesses who could testify to Congress about spacecraft big spacecraft a lot of them were very large very large yeah like a football field kind of size

At least one private aerospace company acts as custodian of recovered NHI technology under a sole-source arrangement, analyzing it and selling resulting insight back to the government for profit.

you have a basically a sole source arrangement and you allow certain um private corporate elements uh to look at this develop a potential insight and then sell it back to the government for profit and I think that's totally unethical

AARO director Sean Kirkpatrick testified to Congress on April 19 that AARO has found no credible evidence to date of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology, or objects defying known physics; unresolved cases remain unresolved primarily for lack of data.

has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics while a large number of cases in our holdings remain technically unresolved this is primarily due to a lack of data associated with those cases

Our check Confirmed word for word. Sean Kirkpatrick testified to the Senate Armed Services Committee on April 19, 2023 that 'AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics,' and separately stated that cases resolve into explainable sources when sufficient scientific data exists, implying the unresolved remainder is primarily a data-quality problem. Both the quote and the framing check out against contemporaneous reporting on the hearing.

Sources space.com, airforcetimes.com, armed-services.senate.gov

Grusch personally warned Kirkpatrick about his findings roughly a year before this interview, and Kirkpatrick did not follow up despite having his phone number.

i expressed some concerns to Dr kurpatre about a year ago and told him what I was starting to uncover and he didn't follow up with me and he has my phone number

What appears, from a human perspective, to be malevolent non-human activity has occurred, including nuclear-site probing and instances of humans acting offensively against non-human craft.

what appears to be malevolent activity has has happened based on not only uh nuclear sight probing activities um witness testimony i think at least if we look at it through a humanistic lens um it does appear negative

Human beings have been hurt or killed by non-human intelligence, per briefings Grusch received from individuals on the program.

I was briefed by a few individuals on the program that there were um malevolent events like that

Russia and China run their own secret crash-retrieval programs and are exploiting recovered technology militarily, in a multi-decade covert 'cold war' with the US over NHI technology.

we're in a competition with their adversaries to understand this and it's a it's a multi-deade cold war that uh has been under our nose for so long

Article 3 of the 1971 US-USSR Agreement on Measures to Reduce the Risk of Nuclear War, which concerns notifying of unidentified objects near nuclear facilities, proves both superpowers were aware UAP existed.

if you look at article three of that treaty it talks about unidentified objects near nuclear facilities or interfering with communications and that is a treaty uh that has been used... to notify uh each other if there's a concerning event

Grusch personally saw substantive evidence that white-collar crime was committed in connection with the program.

can I put it to you that crimes must have been committed at the very least I saw substantiative evidence that white collar crime was committed

Grusch has a strong suspicion that people have been killed over the years to protect the program's secrecy.

have people been killed to protect this secret uh based on the people I talked to uh that was an ongoing uh concern yeah unfortunately I've heard some really unamerican things I don't want to repeat right now

Grusch has no history of mental illness, psychosis, or delusion that could explain his claims as confabulation.

do you have any kind of mental illness no have you ever had a psychosis a delusion is there anything in your medical history that might be capable of being interpreted as a reason why you might be confabulating

Grusch spent roughly four years methodically cross-checking informants who did not know each other, confirming that documents, photographs, and highly specific details they independently provided were internally consistent, before filing his whistleblower complaint.

I took about four years being very methodical before I filed my my whistleblower complaint to be absolutely certain of these basic facts

The Intelligence Community Inspector General determined Grusch's whistleblower complaint 'urgent and credible' and forwarded it to the congressional intelligence committees.

they found my complaint uh urgent and credible uh for the intelligence committees

Grusch will make himself available to brief cleared officials -- naming then-Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and DNI Avril Haines, who received his complaint -- on classified details he could not share in this interview, and is starting a scientific foundation.

i make myself available to Secretary Austin DNI Haynes who was a recipient of my complaints i'm happy to further brief elected officials