UFO Cover-Up Analyst: The Secret Alien Programs Nobody Is Talking About! | Eric Weinstein

Weinstein describes Grusch as sober, with a nearly eidetic memory, on the autism spectrum, and highly consistent from year to year, telling exactly the same stories.

He's a pretty sober guy. Has a nearly idetic memory. He's very spectrumy. He's highly consistent yeartoear. Exactly the same stories.

Bartlett reads from a tablet a summary, with no source named, saying Grusch on the Joe Rogan Experience discussed his intelligence background and claims of covert programs that allegedly retrieve and reverse engineer non-human aircraft, relaying secondhand accounts and documents.

Grush discussed his background in federal intelligence and elaborated on his claims regarding covert government programs that allegedly retrieve and reverse engineer non-human aircraft.

Weinstein relays that Grusch was 'in a skiff' (probably a SCIF, a secure room) where he was told they were considering whether to kill him.

He was in a skiff apparently where he was told that they were considering whether or not to kill him.

Weinstein relays that Grusch described giant underwater bases and said different species of aliens had been reported to him as fighting in the skies above Earth.

He described giant underwater bases. He claims that different species of aliens have been reported to him to be having fights in the skies above uh Earth.

Weinstein asks the host to imagine a sober adult saying that US forces fired on 'giant lizard people' who killed US service members, and that some aliens are hostile and some not; he presents this as the content of Grusch's account, not as his own belief.

we've fired on giant lizard people who've killed US service people because there are hostile aliens and non-hostile aliens.

Weinstein states that he holds no belief either that aliens exist or that they do not, and offers a metaphor of a moving lump under a rug that two people argue about without anyone checking.

I have no belief that there are aliens. I have no belief that there aren't aren't aliens.

Weinstein says US secret programs form tiers: special access programs, unacknowledged special access programs, and waived unacknowledged ones that lack ordinary oversight, with a 'bigot list' of the only people to whom the program may be acknowledged.

there's waved unagnowledged special access programs which we don't even have oversight over

Weinstein claims that waived unacknowledged special access programs exist that involve aliens, and says this is the only thing he knows.

I claim the only thing that I know is that we have web usaps involving unagnowledged special access programs that are about aliens.

Weinstein lists what the alien-themed programs might be: faked aliens with giant papier-mache spacecraft, real craft, or a cover for conventional projects such as ones designed at Northrop; he says he does not know which.

whether it's about faking aliens and we have giant papermâché spacecraft or whether these are actual craft or whether these are cover for things that we're designing at Northrep, I don't know.

Weinstein says he knows David Grusch personally, speaks with Ryan Graves, has talked with Chris Mellon and spends time with Garry Nolan, and that these and about 50 people in total give him different versions of the same story, including high-ranking politicians.

I know David Gush personally and I speak to Ryan Graves and I've talked to Chris Melon and I've hang out with Gary Nolan, all these 50 people who all have different versions of the same story.

Weinstein says there are giant special access programs that have aliens as their supposed reason for being, and that they could be discussing anything about aliens or be a cover for something else, such as secret casinos for the elite.

there are giant special access programs that have aliens as their supposed reason for being.

Bartlett says aliens are not top of mind because decades of sightings and crop circles produced nothing real, so attention went elsewhere to things that are actually happening.

back, you know, when I was growing up it was all about crop fields and stuff having alien craft landing on crop fields and creating these big circles and nothing's really ever happened.

Weinstein says El Paso airport was suddenly shut down, that White Sands Missile Range and a base in Texas are nearby, and that there is apparently an infestation of lights in the sky visible without entering secure territory; the official story was cartel drones.

The White Sands Missile Range is immediately north and there's a base in Texas right there and there's apparently an infestation of lights in the sky that can be seen without needing to be in secure territory.

Weinstein rejects the cartel-drone explanation and offers two possibilities: the US is red-teaming itself with an undisclosed persistent drone capability that part of the government does not know about, or the lights are something unknown.

I don't believe it's cartel drones.

Weinstein argues it would be 'relatively insane' if there were no aliens, because the only reason to expect none is that general relativity holds a strict absolute speed limit more strongly than serious physicists think it does.

So, I think it'll be relatively insane if there are no aliens.

Weinstein says humans could have left the solar system 40 years ago, and that the entire theoretical physics community has lost its mind; asked by the host whether there is any science for it, he does not give one.

I think we could have done it 40 years ago

Weinstein says it is strange that the nuclear weapons conversation has not been connected to the alien conversation, because they are very connected, and does not say how.

isn't it strange that we haven't connected the nukes to the alien conversation because they're very connected.